Ms. Lisa MacLeod: My question is again to the Minster of Health. In June 2009 Sarah Kramer left eHealth Ontario in disgrace, just as the billion-dollar boondoggle was unfolding. It was well reported in the media at the time that the former CEO, who was hand-picked by the Premier of Ontario himself, was handed a $317,000 severance, yet the sunshine list last week shows that you paid Kramer another $106,000.

Since the Ontario PC caucus and the government's own ministry have confirmed it was not a severance, why did Ontario families have to pay another $106,000 on top of the $317,000 she was given as a gift on the way out?

Hon. Deborah Matthews: I'm thankful for the question. What I want to say is that I am restricted in what I can say, as the member opposite well knows, about those arrangements.

What I can reiterate is our commitment to keep on moving forward when it comes to eHealth, because eHealth is making a real difference for people. We are not alone in advocating a continuation with eHealth. Let me read from the Toronto Star-

Hon. Deborah Matthews: Let me read a quote from Dr. Suzanne Strasberg, the former president of the Ontario Medical Association, in speaking about electronic health records. She says, "This is a grand task and one that requires a long-term commitment. The expectations are both promising and exciting, and it is imperative the government and physicians get on with the job ...."

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: Ontario families have no idea why they keep paying for Sarah Kramer, Ron Sapsford and so many others for not doing a day's worth of work on their behalf, particularly in the health care system.

You paid Sarah Kramer over $100,000 after she had been given a quarter-of-a-million-dollar severance, after she had presided over the billion-dollar eHealth boondoggle. Now she's fled to the United States to take another job, so we want to know, why did you continue to pay Sarah Kramer after the severance was out? Is it because you cut the same deal that you cut Gérald Savoie from the Montfort Hospital, who, after two years not doing a thing, will actually be paid over $1 million? Will Sarah Kramer be on the sunshine list just like Gérald Savoie is next year?

Hon. Deborah Matthews: I know the party opposite is having great fun with this. What is important to me-

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Members will please come to order. I would ask that they be conscious of these desks; they are antiques and we do not want to damage them permanently.

Please continue.

Hon. Deborah Matthews: On this side of the House, we're determined to continue to get results for people and that includes the people of Nepean-Carleton riding. We now have two family health teams in Nepean-Carleton with 28 doctors and 15 health care professionals, providing care to over 30,000 patients, 8,000 of them previously unattached under your watch.

Under their watch, it was a different story. They cut funding to hospitals. At the Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario, for example, they cut $6.3 million. Almost 11% of the budget was slashed when they took office.

Ottawa-

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. New question?