Ms. Lisa MacLeod: In the Premier's video confessional he promises, "We're going to say ‘no' under the rules to certain expenses." But Ontario families still can't see what you've said no to, and here's why: Eleven ministers and 19 agencies haven't posted their expenses for the past year on the government's expense disclosure website.

Now the McGuinty Liberals say they're going to fine hospital CEOs that lobby the government. What is the point of bringing in new rules if the McGuinty Liberals continue not to follow the existing rules?

Hon. Dwight Duncan: I'm sure the member opposite is aware that her leader has not posted his expenses, and that is very regrettable. The member opposite knows the ministers-

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Stop the clock. The Minister of Community and Social Services will please come to order. And the Minister of Research and Innovation. And the Minister of Municipal Affairs. Order.

The member from Nepean, you've just asked the question and you still have a couple of supplementaries yet.

Hon. Dwight Duncan: There are inconsistencies in the questions and in the facts. I know Ontario taxpayers take those kinds of things into account. What's important is that Premier McGuinty and his government have brought much greater accountability across every range.

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The member from Renfrew should be in his seat.

Mr. John Yakabuski: I can't; somebody else is.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Well, that's not my responsibility. We've dealt with that issue once before in this House.

Minister?

Hon. Dwight Duncan: The people of Ontario do understand the importance of the legislation my colleague is bringing forward to further enhance accountability. We look forward to the debate. We hope the official opposition will support enhanced accountability-something this government has worked hard to provide the people of Ontario for the last seven years.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: I think there's something very important that the minister needs to know. First of all, he misled the House by saying the leader has not posted-

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): The honourable member will withdraw the comment, please.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: I withdraw the comment.

Having said that, this minister must correct the record. Our leader's expenses were posted minutes after the Integrity Commissioner reviewed them. They're at ontariopcleader.ca. But the reality is, we put forward the Truth in Government Act, that would have led to more transparency and accountability, but that party defeated it.

The auditor confirms what Ontario families already know: The Premier's so-called new rules haven't changed a thing. On page 8 of the auditor's hospital report, he says that the July 2009 directive you brought in to fix the loopholes at eHealth and that feeding frenzy were ineffective. Higher-priced consultants were given preferred treatment. If you ignored the rules to fix eHealth, then why would you expect Ontario families to believe you're going to fix anything this time around?

Hon. Dwight Duncan: Again, in the interests of accuracy, the member is aware and she knows full well that all agencies have submitted their expenses by the deadline. The approvals are with the Integrity Commissioner, who is doing a great job at reviewing these expenses, which will be posted, as I understand it in our conversation with the Integrity Commissioner, when the Integrity Commissioner-and I should point out-

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I'm warning the member from Halton and I'm warning the member from Renfrew.

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 ... and I should point out, Mr. Speaker-

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): I'm warning the member from Halton, and I'm warning the member from Renfrew.

Minister.

Hon. Dwight Duncan: That is part of the entire accountability and transparency that we have brought to government since assuming office seven years ago.

We'll have a chance later, in the supplementary, to talk about things that weren't brought to the public's attention in the past. But all agencies are in compliance. The Integrity Commissioner is reviewing them. We've brought integrity and accountability. I hope that member and her party will support the minister's legislation later today.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: What I didn't hear was an apology to Tim Hudak, the PC leader, for erroneously telling legislators and the province what he-so falsely accused-

Interjections.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Stop the clock. I just remind the honourable member that we have a practice in here of not naming individual names. Please continue.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: Look, in the Premier's video of confessional, he sheds a few crocodile tears, and he says, again, he'll change.

But after the camera is turned off, he doesn't deliver the accountability that he promises Ontario families. Ontario families don't want more PR schemes from the McGuinty government; they want accountability. Instead of a Premier who rewards insiders, Ontario families want someone who will focus on front-line care first. Why can't the McGuinty Liberals understand that it is time for a change?

Hon. Dwight Duncan: I think the member is absolutely right that people want more accountability. Then why didn't her government put Hydro One under the auspices of the Auditor General? Why didn't you and your party and leader put OPG under the auspices? Do you think it had anything to do with the yachts and the consultants and the hidden expenses? Whatever became of the Hydro One yacht? And why did you not put hospitals under the auspices of the Auditor General? We're doing that. That government concealed its expenses, that party never wanted accountability when it was in office, and out of convenience and trying to get votes they try to undermine-