MACLEOD QUESTIONS MINISTER OVER REVIEW OF LHIN EXPENSES PDF Print E-mail
Wednesday, 14 April 2010 08:22
Ms. Lisa MacLeod: My question is for the Minister of Government Services. Yesterday in question period, Premier McGuinty said that his new rules for hospitality expenses applied to "our 22 biggest agencies and our LHINs." But the Integrity Commissioner's office told us that they do not review LHIN expenses. My question to you, Minister, is, who do we believe-the Premier, or the Integrity Commissioner that we just reappointed yesterday?

Hon. Harinder S. Takhar: I think it's important for me to recap what our government has done in terms of improving accountability for the people of Ontario. As a part of our commitment to greater transparency and accountability, we have expanded the powers of the Auditor General. We have also brought Hydro One and Ontario Power Generation under the freedom of information act. We have increased transparency for 22 agencies whose expenses will be reviewed by the Integrity Commissioner. That has already been done, and the processes are in place to make that happen.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Supplementary?

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: The fact remains that Minister Takhar knows that the LHINs are one of 600 public bodies that have no one monitoring their expenses. He knows that, and he didn't answer the question. That means no one is looking at LHINs and seeing if they're reimbursing limousine rides, like eHealth did for Sarah Kramer. No one is scrutinizing the LHIN expenses to catch claims of $75 cupcakes for a staff outing, like the one at Cancer Care Ontario that cost us $10,000. No one knows if LHINs are reimbursing their boards, staff or their consultants for GPS systems, like the WSIB did for Steve Mahoney.

My question, back to the minister: Why did the Premier say the Integrity Commissioner is scrutinizing LHIN expenses when she is not?

Hon. Harinder S. Takhar: My understanding is that the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care has already written to LHINs and they have agreed to post all their expenses online. In addition to that, the 22 agencies-

Hon. Harinder S. Takhar: My understanding is that the Minister of Health and Long-Term Care has already written to the LHINs and they have agreed to post all their expenses online. In addition to that, the 22 agencies' expenses will be sent to the Integrity Commissioner and she will be reviewing their expenses. If there are any expenses she's not satisfied with, those expenses will be reimbursed by those agencies.

We have moved ahead to actually put a lot of controls in place to make sure that all these expenses are the right expenses and the right people are being reimbursed for those expenses.

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Final supplementary.

Ms. Lisa MacLeod: Again, the Integrity Commissioner's office told us she is not reviewing the expenses of the LHINs. Records that the PC caucus have obtained through freedom of information reveal that the LHINs are following the same set of policies that got the CEOs at eHealth and OLG fired. The Southwest LHIN paid over $4,000 to Liberal-friendly consultants of Courtyard without any receipts. The Northwest LHINs reimbursed $19,000 to consultants without any documentation. If expenses were posted online, the public could enforce the rules. Premier McGuinty is not adopting our PC plan for greater oversight and accountability for these types of expenses.

So, my question back to the minister, and I hope he answers it: How will Minister Takhar enforce travel and accountability rules at the LHINs and the other 600 public-

The Speaker (Hon. Steve Peters): Thank you. Minister?

Hon. Harinder S. Takhar: Actually, I have a letter of February 4 that the minister wrote to the LHINs, and she wrote it to all the LHINs. It basically says that, "LHINs should take the proactive step of posting the expenses of their board and senior management online on a go-forward basis. This is similar to a requirement for 22 of Ontario's largest agencies and to the Public Sector Expenses Review Act." They have agreed to do it.

In addition to that, I think the member made reference to the WSIB. WSIB is actually among the top 22 agencies whose expenses for the top five officials will be sent to the Integrity Commissioner.